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November 21, 2012

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Max

Hi Harriette -

There might be a remnant of "In God We Trust" in America ... but can He trust us? Our politicians still end speeches with "God Bless America" ... while He waits for America to bless God again. Tough days on every front, but God ...

Wishing you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving, Harriette! Amidst all the noise and confusion around us (in and out of the church), we still have a lot to be thankful for. Just specks in the universe, but God loves us!

selahV

Max, thank you so much. You are a wise man. If only His people would turn from their wicked ways and seek His face, he might heal our land. Have a wonderful blessed Thanksgiving. selahV

Max

Harriette - I'm just catching up with various blogs after the Thanksgiving break. Your comment "If only His people ..." holds the key to our dilemma. An ancient promise to His church in every generation, 2 Chronicles 7:14 is God's trumpet blast in an evil day. The church of the living God is the only institution on the planet that can halt the moral and spiritual decay around us. Yet, heavenly resources to change our wicked course are not apportioned to us because His people don't humble themselves, repent, seek His face, and pray. Our altars are empty and dry while precious eternal promises go uncollected.

Harriette, the church has become the problem, rather than the solution. Where are the prophets who will exhort us to pray?! "IF My People ... THEN Will I" ... will we?

selahV

Max, ever since I started blogging I've been saying this. I cannot believe God will bless this nation until His people turn away from the wickedness and seek His face through true and humble repentance. it seems like everyone has gone their own way...looking to their own desires and comforts and ease. May God lay this burden upon us all.

Max

"I cannot believe God will bless this nation until His people turn away from the wickedness and seek His face through true and humble repentance."

Yep, America is sick because the church is sick. America's health can only be restored when the church gets back on its feet. The current wave of antinomianism which has washed into the church with New Calvinism (Driscoll, et.al) won't help us activate the "Then Will I" of God.

selahV

There is a CONDITION that must be met. Yet we like to pretend it is all God's will that we suffer needlessly. It's one thing to share in the sufferings of Christ as life gives way to death and to persecution of the saints. It's another thing entirely to invite suffering and wrath of God via consequences for doing NOTHING. James says if we know what to do and do not do it, it is sin. Hence we must turn from our sin and seek God's face... yet many preachers are preaching it's just our depraved nature. Kind of excusing who we are and what we are doing. It's all God's fault?

Max

"There is a CONDITION that must be met."

Harriette, you've nailed it on the head! I find that this message is not in the sermon file of SBC's young reformed pastors in my area.

Indeed, every promise of God has a condition attached to it! When God speaks to us, He is not offering us advice, giving us suggestions, or listing options. He speaks with the authority of a Father commanding our attention and obedience.

The message that "we can't do the right thing because we are too totally depraved" is off track! Unfortunately, it has got the attention of a young generation which desires to hear that from their preachers.

"If" is a small character with a big bite. When spoken, this little word immediately establishes covenant conditions between speaker and hearer. With each promise, comes a condition (a theme presented throughout Scripture). We need desperately for Heaven to set into motion what we need, but we will never get there until we (the Church) humble ourselves, pray, seek His face, and turn from our wicked ways (repent). Right now, we are seeking our face - and it's an ugly mug staring back at us. Our loyalties are split between heavenly demands and the things of earth ... we are double-minded ... we serve two masters.

Tough days ahead for the church and nation if "My people" don't wake up soon.

selahV

Max.. absolutely. you are preaching to the choir with me. each day I fall short of those things which God wants from me. And each day I succeed in some by His power and grace. I cannot begin to pray without recognizing the need I have of God to keep me from the temptations of pride, lack of self-control, and apathy. Some days i want to throw up my hands and scream, I quit. But that is not in the cards. I must continue to reach beyond myself and be what God wants me to be. A "crier" for Him, an ambassador for Christ, and a vessel for the Holy Spirit.

I so pray we each turn, more turn, more seek God's face, more pray for His awakening in our world. If it takes suffering for awhile the horrors that seem to loom on the near horizon, so be it. We will endure in His power. We cannot grow weary in well-doing, we must rest in Him and ask for wisdom in what to say, who to say it to, and when to say it, and how to say it most effectively. Praying for all those young preachers... and a few old codgers, too. Bless you in your consistency and steadfast diligence and encouragement.

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