I find it all very confusing.
Every time I post an article--be it pre-scheduled, published or draft, (as I've said before), my copy disappears. My Typepad service techs tell me it is not really happening... that my empty screen is a figment of my imagination so-to-speak... that the copy which I do not see is actually not invisible... it's visible on their end. Thus they've concluded it is not a worm or virus, but a glitch in my browser (which is Firefox Mozilla). Now, whether or not Typepad techs are correct or not, does not solve my problem. I no more have my copy before me to edit and restore than a person has the ability to write or rewrite their name in the Lamb's Book of Life.
This aggravating situation has created such havoc with writing, I've all but stopped completely. Right now, I have several things I'd like to post about which I've encountered on blogs and other places, but gee...it's such a hassle. That said, I am going to post a piece of info a friend of mine pulled off the internet regarding Presbyterians.
Why Presbyterian thoughts on a Baptist Blog?
Well, that denomination is most decidedly reformed and followers of Calvinism. And since there has been so much discussion regarding the Traditionalist Baptist view on an infant's relationship with God (inability and ability to enter heaven should they die), I thought this was an interesting piece of information on how a reformed Presbyterian church viewed the depravity (or lack of depravity) in infants.
From the website of Faith Presbyterian Church in Tacoma, WA; a member of the Presbyterian Church in America.
Subject: The Presbyterian Doctrines of Covenant Children
"According to Calvin the infants of believing parents belong to the church before they are engrafted into its visible membership by baptism. The child of a Christian parent is presumptively a Christian and an heir of eternal life.
The offspring of believers are born holy, because their children, while yet in the womb, before they breathe the vital air, have been adopted into the covenant of eternal life. Nor are they brought into the church by baptism on any other ground than because they belonged to the body of the Church before they were born. He who admits aliens to baptism profanes it.... For how can it be lawful to confer the badge of Christ on aliens from Christ. Baptism must, therefore, be preceded by the gift of adoption, which is not the cause of half salvation merely, but gives salvation entire; and this salvation is afterwards ratified by Baptism."
[Interim Adulterogermanum: cui adiecta est vera Christianae Pacificationis et Ecclesiae Reformandae Ratio. Per Joann. Calvinum. Corpus Reformatorum, vol. 35, 619, cited by Schenck, p. 13. Similarly Calvin says, '...the children of believers are baptized not in order that they who were previously strangers to the church may then for the first time become children of God, but rather that, because by the blessing of the promise they already belonged to the body of Christ, they are received into the church with this solemn sign.' Institutes, IV, xv, 22. ]" (emphasis added)
My friend asks a very pointed and purposeful question:
"Where is the doctrine of orginal sin and Adamic guilt in this statement above ... "The offspring of believers are born holy,"?"
Folks have been bantering back and forth about the state of infants in relation to Adam's imputed guilt upon each and every person born (or unborn for that matter). This statement above does seem to say that an adult parent's faith is vicariously transferred to the unborn infant. Perhaps I am reading this wrong. I do not know. However...
if this is, indeed, what Calvinists believe (which is hard to grasp), then how can anyone who is born into a Christian family ever be "totally depraved"? How can holy be made unholy? How can an adopted be un-adopted? Why is it required that someone born holy needs faith to "believe" in order to become what he already is? How does holy become filthy? Is "holy" just another of the growing list of words that need to be redefined for folks like me? Does anyone else find this information problematic of what Presbyterian Calvinists believe?
Is this what Baptist Calvinists believe?
The Traditional Baptist Statement addresses human depravity in a way that does not negate the consequences we endure due to a corrupted world. The nature of man gives him the appetite and desire for sin. Yet, sin is born only as a person gives into the desires of sin's temptation...which we are certain to do because according to scripture, "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." We cannot fix that. Only God can give us a new heart and impress upon us the desire for Jesus, and empower us with the faith follow Him. When we act upon that desire, we exhibit the faith we've been given and are changed, reborn, and made into a new creature, holy and acceptable unto God through the shedding of blood at Calvary.
Any thoughts? selahV
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